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Wolf: A no-win situation for Suns

It was a no-win situation for the Suns.

A Suns’ victory rings hollow without Tony Parker in the lineup for the Spurs, but a loss would have scarred them psychologically.

Phoenix still would have said the right things after the game: How it didn’t matter, how it was, “only December, “how they “hadn’t found their chemistry,” and how they’re “not the team they’re going to be in April.”

But when they were quiet, alone with their own thoughts, they would have felt that nagging sting of doubt. That certain knowledge that they couldn’t beat the Spurs last year, they couldn’t beat the Spurs in San Antonio and they couldn’t even beat the Spurs without Tony Parker on the floor.

They couldn’t and can’t beat the Spurs.

These are the things professional athletes do not speak of without the aid of a water-board. They’d rather admit they hunted small birds and strangled them with their bare hands when they were 12 - that they can still hear the screaming of the birds, rather than admit their doubt of beating the Spurs.

But, now they don’t have to do that. The screaming has been silenced, the birds are safe and the water-board has been stowed.

The Suns beat the Spurs.

But, again, it doesn’t matter.

It is December, they haven’t found their chemistry yet and they’re not the team they’re going to be in April - but still, the Suns beat the Spurs.

Wolf’s terrible weekend

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* The Cardinals’ changes are all but done. Is this season a success without postseason play? DW discusses this and other pressing Big Red issues.

* Suns travel behind enemy lines to take on the Soviet Union - I mean, the San Antonio Sterns. The guys debate if someone should take a shot at Robert Horry.

* Last week ended with some HUGE news from the Dbacks. The boys loved the trades, but wondered if they got enough from Jose Valverde.

* FM News Talk 92-3 had their annual rendition of “A Christmas Carol” on Saturday. Doug wasn’t bad - don’t tell him, Burnsy stole the show and Gambo and Ash were terrible. Lose the accents’ fellas.

Grid Iron Griddle:

Wolf had a terrible weekend - even worse than Gambo and Ash. His Cardinals are out of the playoffs after a 31-24 loss to the Saints and his West Virginia squad (Wolf’s alma mater) is looking for a new coach after Rich Rodriguez took the Michigan job.

Guests:

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt: Coach Whisenhunt talked about how he is continuing his crusade to minimize the amount of penalties that the Cardinals get in a game.

Tomorrow’s Show:

Buster Olney, ESPN MLB Insider at 6:20 a.m.

Dennis Erickson, ASU Football Coach at 7:20 a.m.

Bertrand Berry, Cardinals Defensive End at 8:00 a.m.

 
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Chatting with Cindy Crawford

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* The highlight of the day was Cindy Crawford’s interview with Doug and Wolf. The guys talked about her modeling days and her deal with The Roomstore.

* The show was dominated by the Mitchell Report. Doug thinks Clemens and Bonds numbers are fraudulent and should go nowhere near Cooperstown. Wolf says they are the best players of this era and they should each have a plaque at the Hall.

* The Suns have a tough 3 game stretch against the Hornets, Spurs and Mavs. The games are not must wins, but they are crucial. Doug said that the game against the “Sterns” is more important than anyone wants to admit.

* ESPN’s Mark Schlereth joined DW for his weekly spot. The Mitchell Report couldn’t be avoided, even with a football guest.

 
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Wolf: Clemens, Bonds still headed to Hall of Fame

I do not condone the use of steroids at all, but you don’t keep people out of the Hall of Fame because you created the paradigm for them to use the stuff by ignoring that they were using the stuff.

Major League Baseball had a serious problem and it turned its head because people were walking through the turnstiles again after experiencing the equivalent of a nuclear meltdown - a player strike that canceled the World Series.

MLB - the league and the player’s union - knew what was going on and did nothing about it until a half-hearted steroid policy slinked its way into the game in 2002.

Then, in 2005, MLB instituted an HGH policy, outlawing the drug. 2005. Are you kidding me? A drug that can’t be tested for anyways. It took you until 2005 to catch-on to what was going down in your league?

This is more than insidious; this is negligence of the worst kind. This was not ignorance or the naivety your mother had about your sleepovers at your buddy’s house as a junior in high-school. To willfully turn your head away knowing full well what you would see if you didn’t is quite another thing. Now, players are going to pay for your actions. MLB didn’t outlaw this stuff until after the fact. Should we arrest people that smoked in bars last year because a law has since been passed that you can’t smoke in bars?

It’s not moral, ethical or legal (without a prescription) to use steroids and let me reiterate that stance again. But, to be fair, it’s not moral, ethical or legal to engage in insider-trading but it happens every single day and - like baseball players - people are getting rich off their immoral, unethical and illegal activity.

Two wrongs don’t make a right, indeed, but two-dings don’t make a dong either. “Ding” the Commissioner’s office and MLB, “Ding” the player’s association, but don’t “Dong” a player in regard to the Hall of Fame because a player was playing by the rules that weren’t written at the time.

“But Wolf,” you say in a very pious tone, “there is no Hall of Fame for insider trading. The Hall of Fame stands for purity and accomplishments within the context of the rules. These men were cheaters!”

Cheaters to whom, my friends? Cheaters to you? Cheaters because you would never engage in such activity at your work-place? Now let the hypocrites gather together and, without hesitation or real consideration, condemn the players that engaged in such immoral and unethical activities.

If you saw your co-worker excelling in the office because he was engaging in something you couldn’t prove he was engaging in but he was unfairly benefiting from it just the same, would you partake just to keep up?

“Of course I wouldn’t, Wolf,” you scream, spittle flying from your mouth! “How dare you, sir! How dare you imply I would do such a thing?”

There are some of you I believe would not indulge and your righteous fire I will accept. But for many good and hard working people that love their families and would do anything for them to give them a better life than they might have had growing up, watch where you point that flame-thrower or prepare to suffer the consequences of your righteousness.

Would you engage in a victimless activity to support your wife and kids in an attempt to keep up with your co-worker? Be careful now…think about your answer. We’re talking about hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars and, in some cases, millions-of-dollars here.

And that’s what I hate about this the most: money. Money makes people do things they normally would not, including myself, and that sucks butter-milk. Money doesn’t solve problems in your life, make you a better father, a better husband or a better person. I’ve never seen a person’s character improve because of money and the only thing more powerful than money is the promise of money.

If you believe Barry Bonds and, now, Roger Clemens should not be in the Hall-of-Fame because of their alleged steroid use, than you better be prepared to expunge records and begin a witch-hunt the likes which have never been seen in professional sports. If you keep these guys out of The Hall I want to know who else took performance enhancing drugs! No, I don’t merely wish to know, I demand! And that’s the problem.

Should a player be rewarded because he concealed his use of steroids better than the other guy? No.

The Mitchell Report says there was a widespread “culture of drug use in baseball from the top to bottom.” MLB needs to acknowledge this, fix the problem as best they can, and let players like Clemens and Bonds into the hall or make the Hall-of-Fame irrelevant.

Taking steroids is wrong and it shouldn’t be done. But to say a player should not be in the MLB Hall-of-Fame because of it when it was epidemic in the sport is ludicrous. Juiced pitchers competing against juiced hitters in a juiced league with juiced bank accounts isn’t juicy, it’s just the way it was in the Steroid Era of Major League Baseball.

Doug: Keep Clemens out of Hall of Fame

Roger Clemens does not belong in the Hall of Fame.

Of course this is an opinionated statement. My opinion matters only as much as you let it matter because I don’t have a vote for HOF eligibility - a topic I’d love to expound on since I guarantee I know more about baseball than 50 percent of the people voting.

My priority is simple: If you used steroids, you’ve cheated the game and I can’t put you in the HOF. The Hall is based on numbers. Ty Cobb is one of the worst human beings the planet has ever produced - out of all humans, who have never killed someone - but he belongs in the HOF because of his numbers.

You’re numbers determine if you’re a Hall of Famer, not your person. The reason I can’t put Clemens in the HOF is I can’t guarantee the accuracy of his numbers.

He was not retained by the Red Sox because he was washed up. The last four years of his Red Sox career: 40 wins/39 losses. He went 10 and 13 in his last year with a 3.63 ERA.

Suddenly, through only motivation to prove Dan Duquette (the Red Sox GM that released him) he was able to work his body into a machine that produced a 21-7 record with a 2.05 ERA. Look at those two sentences again. I just can’t believe that Roger Clemens didn’t use performance enhancing drugs. Once I believe he’s a user, I can’t compare him to the great pitchers of the game.

Roger Clemens won 192 games as member of the Red Sox despite being only one game over .500 in his last four years. To me, those numbers aren’t HOF numbers.

The thing you have to decide as a fan is what kind of HOF do you want. There’s the theory of indexing. That breaks down to taking a snapshot over time and saying this was one of the best players over these 10-20 years and, therefore, he’s a HOF.

If you do it that way, Clemens is a HOFer. He was the best pitcher over his career than any other pitcher during the same time frame. I don’t want a HOF like that for this reason: If you index Rafael Palmeiro, he’s not a HOFer with or without steroids.

At no time in Palmeiro’s career was he one of the two best 1st basemen in the game. You can’t be a HOFer if you didn’t dominate your position in accordance with the indexing point-of-view. However, when you get over 3,000 hits and 500 home runs, you’ve hit two magical numbers and either one will put you in. It’s cumulative total that puts Palmeiro in the Hall, not his index. Palmeiro is the reason I’m not an “indexer.” Having used Palmeiro as my example, I should say, I don’t put him in the Hall because of his positive test.

I choose to put people in the Hall not based on whether or not they stack up with the greats that are already in the Hall. It’s very subjective, but I think HOFers know what it takes to be a HOFer. I also think that I can look at the numbers of the greats and study the game intensely and figure out who stacks up versus the bar that was set by other HOFers. I don’t care if you hit more home runs off Jason Grimsley than any other player. I wonder did you put up legitimate numbers that reach the bar that HOFers before you put up.

In my opinion, if I can’t tell whether your numbers are legitimate, that’s the fault of the players’ union you’re in and not my problem. I would rather protect the exclusive club that is the HOF than allow you in it. If you don’t like it, all you had to do was agree to testing.

In a court of law, you’re innocent until proven guilty.

This isn’t the law.

The HOF is based on subjectivity. In today’s age, where players fought testing, I say your guilty until proven innocent. There’s nothing wrong with testing you before I let you through these doors.

5-year-old killer

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* Is there a problem with the Suns? Doug and Wolf think so. Shawn Marion doesn’t think there are any problems.

* Does Amare Stoudemire have anything to do with the teams’ struggle? Mike D’Antoni doesn’t think so, but “The Black Hole Sun” might have something to do with two game losing streak.

* Is there anyway we can do to make a gift exchange manly? What about calling it a gift draft lottery? Will there be a cold present?

* Is there anything more typical than a five-year-old killing a 450 pound bear in Arkansas? Maybe Arkansas football thinks they are a SEC elite program.

The Grid Iron Griddle:

Bobby Petrino resigned from the Falcons yesterday and became the Arkansas coach last night. Petrino is a dishonorable man that can’t be trusted. DW would not have their son play for Petrino.

Guests:

John Kincade, 680 the Fan in Atlanta and ESPN Radio: John talked about the crazy 48 hours that the Atlanta Falcons have experienced with the Michael Vick circus coming to an end and Bobby Petrino resigning as the head coach. John said that the players hated him and he flat out deceived owner Arthur Blank.

Suns analyst Dan Majerle: Dan thinks the Suns defense really has to get better if they want to compete for a championship.

ASU men’s basketball coach Herb Sendek: Herb previewed the big game against 17th ranked Xavier this weekend.

Tomorrow’s Show:

Mike Ditka, NFL Hall of Famer at 6:20 a.m.

Eddie Johnson, Suns Analyst at 7:20 a.m.

Al McCoy, Suns Hall of Fame Broadcaster at 8:30 a.m.

 
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Doug’s NFL Power Poll - Week 15

1. PATRIOTS: Hey PIT! How’d that number 1 defense hold up?
2. COWBOYS: Simple question/tough answer: is DAL doing anything wrong?
3. COLTS: I know BAL rolled over but, WOW!
4. PACKERS: If Ryan Grant is a rookie from Notre Dame, shouldn’t I know who he is?
5. JAGUARS: 427 yards of offense and gave up just 144, 40 min TOP, won the T/O ratio, and got 132 from Fred Taylor
6. STEELERS: I follow Wolf, put a team at 5 before they lose
7. SEAHAWKS: Too perfect of a game to keep the Giants ahead of them
8. GIANTS: I don’t know if anyone’s picked up on this but when Manning doesn’t throw an INT, they win
9. CHARGERS: Lucky they’re in the AFC West, they’d miss the playoffs if they needed a wild card
10. BROWNS: Let’s review, flip a coin to determine your QB, trade the QB that won the flip, go 0-2 against PITT, earn the #6 seed
11. BUCS: How did Sage Rosenfels complete 75% against the 4th best passing defense? Huh, Monte?
12. BILLS: I’m sure you said this in September, “I can’t wait till that CLE/BUF game to see who’s going to the playoffs.”
13. VIKINGS: Brad Childress has more saves than Backstrom (did you know the Wild is a win away from the No. 2 seed-me neither)
14. TITANS: Hey Texans, do you still want Vince Young?
15. TEXANS: Wow! 6-3 outside their division, and Williams has 9 ½ sacks
16. BRONCOS: Beating the Chiefs is not impressive, 453 in offense and Young averaging 9.1/carry is
17. REDSKINS: Great performance against CHI (not a good team but they’re 3-1 v AZ, PHI, and DET)
18. CARDINALS: Would have been nice to win a game you shouldn’t have since you’ve lost two you shouldn’t have
19. SAINTS: NO or AZ gets eliminated in the Big Easy
20. LIONS: How fast things can change in the NFL
21. BENGALS: It’s sad when you celebrate a win over STL
22. EAGLES: Unless they’re playing WAS, they find ways to lose
23. PANTHERS: Testaverde 13/28 84y, 0TD’s, 1 INT-don’t worry Foster picked up the slack with 46 yards rushing
24. BEARS: WAS suffers a crushing loss to BUF, buried a teammate, losses their QB and you couldn’t win?
25. RAIDERS: They’re not good–so what does that say about 26-32?
26. CHIEFS: 129 yards of offense and 3 TO’s-how’s that revamped offense going Herm?
27. RAVENS: There’s more fight in Peter McNeeley
28. RAMS: Will they care when they show up in Glendale?
29. FALCONS: 23 months until they’re going to be any good (what did you think 23 months represent)
30. JETS: Back to reality, you can’t play MIA every game
31. 49ERS: With every loss, McFadden gets closer to NE
32. DOLPHINS: Rushed by BUF, is there anything else to say

Jeremy Shockey’s New Year’s Eve party

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* Suns lose their second straight game - this time to Dwayne Wade and the Miami Heat. What is wrong with the Suns? If you listen to the Suns’ comments, something is wrong. DW thinks that there is something wrong, too.

* Which Suns’ team is better, last year or this year?

* Michael Vick is going to the hole for 23 months. The guys discuss if there is a future for him in the NFL.

* You too can be at Jeremy Shockey’s New Year’s Eve Party. He put an ad in Craig’s List. Both guys have daughters and would be worried if their daughter responded to this ad.

Grid Iron Griddle:

Wolf concocts a theory where Cam Cameron would keep the Michigan coaching job warm for Les Miles until he can get out of LSU.

Guests:

Cardinals defensive end Bertrand Berry: Bertrand would have no problem to have Michael Vick as a teammate after he gets out of prison.

Suns Hall of Fame Broadcaster Al McCoy: Al told us why he thinks the Suns lost last night to the Miami Heat.

Tomorrow’s Show:

Dan Majerle, Suns Analyst at 6:20 a.m.

Herb Sendek, ASU Basketball Coach at 7:20 a.m.

 
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Mistress in the Morning is lazy

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* The Cardinals lose 42-21 to the Seahawks. How could they get blown out? The guys give their thoughts.

* During Whisenhunt’s postgame interview on the radio broadcast, Darnell Dockett and Darryl Blackstock go into a fight. DW debated all morning long if this was a big deal.

* Suns had a successful road trip but lost their last game against the T-Wolves. We previewed tonight’s game against the Heat.

* Is there anyway you can justify a fake tree. The Mistress in the Morning is lazy and NOT full of holiday spirit.

Grid Iron Griddle:

We get Paul Calvisi’s eye witness account of the fight between Darnell Dockett and Darryl Blackstock in the locker room.

Guests:

ESPN college football and NFL draft expert Mel Kiper, Jr.: Mel thinks that Tim Tebow was very worthy of winning the Heisman. At this point Darren McFadden is the best player that could enter the NFL Draft.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt: Coach Whisenhunt talked about the fight in the locker room and where the team goes from this loss.

Tomorrow’s Show:

Bertrand Berry, Cardinals defensive end at 8:00 a.m.

 
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Mark Asher vs. Justin Timberlake

Here’s what happened today on Doug and Wolf:

* Do the Suns have a chemistry problem? The players think so if you read their comments in the newspaper. DW speculated if this perceived problem can be fixed.

* Lute Olson will not coach UA basketball for the rest of the season. Will he ever coach again? The guys are skeptical of Olson’s return.

* Barry Bonds will appear in court today about his perjury charges. The guys give their thoughts on Bond and steroids in baseball

* The holiday party was last night. What the hell was Ash wearing? Justin Timberlake called, he wants his clothes back. We found out the hat Mark Asher was wearing is a “flatcap”.

* Ned from FM News/Talk 92-3 came in on his day off because he forgot he had the day off. We laughed at him and behind his back.

Grid Iron Griddle:

DW previewed the biggest game in a decade for the Cardinals as they play the Seahawks in Seattle.

Guests:

ESPN NFL analyst Mark Schlereth: Stink thinks the pressure is getting to the Patriots. He has a lot of inside info on what is going on with the Redskins. He told the guys what he has heard on them dealing with the Taylor tragedy.

Monday’s Show:

It’s a Mel Kiper Monday with ESPN College Football and NFL Draft Expert Mel Kiper at 6:20 a.m.

Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals Head Coach at 8:00 a.m.

 
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