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The Mysterious 4th Out

It actually makes sense.

When an obscure rule of sports comes up, usually I’m screaming my head off because I know the rule.  I’m upset at the players or coaches wondering how they play the game without knowing the rule.  Knowing specific rules can give you an advantage.  Since I was an “unathletic athlete” in high school, I had to know every little rule so I could find any advantage to close the gap with someone who was an athlete.

The “fourth-out rule” is actually a rule I never knew existed, and I learned something about the game.  If you follow the logic behind the rule, it makes sense.

Here’s what happened: top of the 2nd, runners on second and third, one out.  Line drive through the box caught by Haren.  That’s out number two.  Haren turns to throw the ball to Lopez at second.  As Lopez is running to tag Juan Pierre who’s well off the bag at second, Andre Ethier touches home plate without tagging up.

I’m sure you’ve seen an appeal play before.  If a runner breaks too early tagging up, the pitcher steps on the rubber and addresses the plate to put the ball back in play.  Then he announces he’s appealing and throws the ball to a fielder closest to the bag.  The fielder steps on the bag and the umpire rules safe or out.

As far as scoring runs is concerned, that’s simple.  A run can not score as long as a force out is possible.  If a runner reaches home before the third out, the run counts unless there is a force play.  By Lopez not touching second base, he didn’t force out Pierre at second.  Since Pierre was tagged out and not forced out, Ethier’s run scored before the third out of the inning.  Normally, that’s easy to understand.  The problem here is, the runner on third didn’t tag up either.  So how does a runner score that didn’t tag up?

The play gets weird now.  Ethier’s run doesn’t count until Eric Byrnes runs off the field (yes, I found a way to blame something else on Byrnes).  If the D-backs would have appealed the play by never calling time out, and announced to the third base umpire they were appealing Ethier leaving the bag, Ethier would have been called out.  Obviously, that’s the fourth out of the inning and that’s why it’s called the fourth-out rule.  Technically, it’s not the fourth out.  The defense gets to choose which out they want as the third out.  By choosing Ethier as the third out, he doesn’t score.  In the scorebook, Pierre is no longer out at second and he’s stranded at second (despite being called out).

The reason why Byrnes gets the blame is the opportunity to appeal ends when all defensive players leave fair territory.  As long as there’s one fielder in fair territory, the D-backs can still return to the field of play and appeal the play at third.  Byrnes was in right field and the D-backs were in the third base dugout.  He was the last one off the field.  As soon as he crossed the third base line on his way to the dugout, the D-backs lost the right to appeal.

To make it easier to understand, think of landing on Boardwalk.  If you want to, you can announce you’ve landed on Boardwalk and pay your rent to the owner of the property.  However, if you’re anything like me, you pay nothing until you’re asked for the money by the owner.  The Dodgers don’t have to announce to the D-backs they didn’t tag up at third, it’s up to the D-backs to appeal the play.

So the fast explanation for the four-out rule: 1) runner scores before third out, 2) third out is recorded via tag instead of force out, 3) defense leaves field before appeal is made.

The one thing about the four-out rule that isn’t being said, none of this would matter if the D-backs came to the plate with a plan, executed that plan, and manufactured runs.  It’s another great Dan Haren performance wasted.

The Mailbag

Been a while since I’ve had a chance to put up the mailbag. I try to keep my e-mails and use this blog as a forum for you to speak your mind on issues.

My rules are simple. I will never respond to a post you might place on a blog because that’s your domain to talk to other Doug & Wolf listeners. If you e-mail me, I will almost always return your e-mail. There’s only a few reasons why I don’t return your e-mail (other than of course when you don’t say anything that needs a follow up).

If you e-mail Gambo, Ash, Wolf, me or the Commish and me, or any other show combination, I don’t read your e-mail. I’ve learned that people that e-mail all of us at the same time are just fishing for someone to engage them but you’re not really listening to the show and joining our conversation. You’re trying to start one on your own. I think I owe you a response about the show because you’re a customer. Without you I don’t have a job. However, when you just e-mail all of us trying to start a conversation with anybody, you’re just reaching for something to do.

I don’t return e-mails if you’re a complete jerk and you’re just trying to start a fight. If you cuss at me or attack my religion, family, or credibility, I simply create a rule in my Inbox that sends your e-mails into my “evil listener” file. I just use the file to keep track of people that hate me just in case they do anything a little crazy.

Here’s today’s sample with my responses.

I read the article in ESPN the mag as a I have a subscription, but I JUST saw it online and thought you guys might like to read,

It’s about the D-backs putting 18 families on “scholarship” or giving them season tickets……family’s in dire straights…… Shows even more of what a good guy Derrick Hall is……

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4048771

-Adam in Chandler

Doug: Thanks for sharing this. Derrick has become a good friend. At the same time, when you’re the youngest President and CEO in baseball, you’re clearly good at your job.

It’s officially official. ( http://ktar.com/sports/?sid=1104574&nid=126) The final standings are posted. Ash wins the overall, Burnsy had zero’s down the stretch. Also, the Bracket Challenge on our site (which is the scoring system used) was won by a KTAR member on a national level. He finished with 354 (Ash had 260) points getting the Final Four, Championship Game and Champion all correct. Winning the contest over the entire country, the entry gets four round trip flights and hotel to Vegas for the 1st and 2nd rounds of the 2010 tourney, plus other stuff for winning on the local level.

-Tyler KTAR Web boy

Doug: I salute our winner. I reject the fact that Ash beat me by 3 points.

Top o the morn Doug –

What was the name of the berry type drink that was being talked about on this morning’s show? We listen to you and Wolfey most mornings and very much enjoy your show.

Thanks –

-Phyl

Doug: Diane was talking about it. The juice was called Alive. And what do you mean “most” mornings. I’ve got daughters that need to go to college. Please listen every morning.

Wow you guys don’t go out on a limb or try and be objective like any national show. Just be homers like all local shows. Lets see, KTAR is the flagship station of the Diamondbacks and your station and you pick them to win the NL West with the worst relievers in the west. How are they going to close the deal on any team. I need some kind of objectivity not just radio station homers. I will check you guys out again in Football season.

-Marc

Doug: Not the dumbest e-mail I’ve ever received but easily top 10. If I’m a homer because I pick the D-backs to win the West, what about the last two years when I didn’t pick them to win?

When you call me a homer, you’re saying I’m a dishonest or gutless man. You’re trying to say I would predict another team to win but I’m worried about the repercussions from management so I changed my pick to appease them. I immediately lose any respect for anyone who attacks my integrity.

I think the bullpen is a major concern for the D-backs. I think offense is a major concern for the Giants. I think starting pitching is a major concern for the Dodgers. It is my opinion that bullpen and offense is of lesser importance than starting pitching. If someone disagrees, I completely understand why. I can’t say you’re wrong. If you think I’m a homer because I value starting pitching, you just don’t know baseball well enough to have a valued opinion.

Why wouldn’t U of A hire Reggie Theus to be their coach? Just like Lute, he is a good-looking, charismatic guy that could get top-level talent ready for the NBA.

-Steven, Scottsdale

Doug: I think Reggie’s a good coach but I don’t think I’d take him. He’s already bounced around quite a bit. For a program that’s dying for consistency, I’m not going to hire someone who left a college job for the NBA.

Doug & Wolf, Why is no one talking about the fact that Coach Izzo lost the game before they even played? If you are a player and your coach says, on national TV, that “if the other team plays good and we play good, we will lose”. Make it a super day…Paul O.

Doug: I don’t have a problem with that. He could easily be telling his team that they’ve got to make UNC play poorly with pressure defense or he could be saying that you have to execute the plan perfectly to win so focus on minor details. There’s too many ways to take this quote to assume he means the games over before tip.

Hi!

Jennifer in Goodyear

Doug: Hi. I just finished my blog and I’ll be home for lunch. You know, you can just call me. You don’t have to e-mail the mailbag.

Too much for one Headline

You ever get a ton of stuff on your mind and no time to go deeply into the thought process?  That’s where I’m at.

Suns: I feel so hollow because I’m irate at their performance.  I agreed with everyone of Kerr’s moves except the Shaq trade.  Since I’m in agreement, I’m bitter that it hasn’t worked.

I don’t blame myself because they didn’t listen to what I wanted.  I wanted D’Antoni’s system with defense, a substitution pattern based on match-ups and a bench.  Wrap it all up into the “7 seconds or Shaq.”  D’Antoni didn’t want to play the bench so he was never going to develop talent or be prepared for the unexpected (suspensions or injuries).

Porter didn’t want to embrace 7 seconds or Shaq and it cost him.  I was completely in favor of his hiring and I was completely in favor of his firing.  He had the credentials to come in and succeed and didn’t show the ability to bring a veteran team together like he did a young team in Milwaukee.

I don’t think D’Antoni gets enough blame for the bad contracts that were a weight on the franchise.  Kerr had to move those while trying to improve the team.  D’Antoni is also playing 9 and 10 guys with the Knicks.  Clearly he learned his lesson.

My neighbors dog: Be quiet.

D-Backs:  Is anyone else concerned or is it just me?  I think in MLB you either need middle relief to keep games close or big offense to overcome the pitching.  I don’t think the D-backs have either.

Also, I can accept the K’s for Mark Reynolds if I’m getting the HR’s and RBI’s.  I can accept the errors if I’m getting a huge .OPS.  Either the K’s or the errors have to end.  In the spring, he’s got both.

ASU:  Herb Sendek will leave if ASU fans don’t start coming to games.  You can’t bring recruits into a dark, empty arena.

My wife: Rice Krispies aren’t cutting it.  Go to the grocery.

U of A:  Can we please end the Pitino rumors?  He’s not coming.  Where’s the private jet for recruiting trips?  Where’s the top notch practice facility (please don’t waste my time telling me about the Jefferson Center)?  Where’s arena renovation plan?  U of A is an excellent job in college basketball.  It’s not Louisville and it’s not Big East.

My in-laws: Why are you coming for a week?  Can’t you stop by on your way through to somewhere else?

Tourney Time

The incredible games of the weekend are exactly why I love the NCAA Tournament.

Imagine if you had tickets to the games in Dayton.  I realize my hometown brings nothing to the table when it comes to great American cities–we have the Air Force Museum which is solid but I know my place.  OSU/Sienna in 2OT’s, Okla St/Tenn in overtime, E Tenn St almost becoming the first 16 seed to win and Pitt barely escaping the next game were all witnessed by the crowd in Dayton.

I say this because the tourney is in Glendale.  If you can get tickets, you’ve got to go.  The tempo of Mizzou and Memphis will be crazy.  UConn handling the length of Purdue in the first game and then the speed of the MU/UM winner is the definition of earning your way into the Final Four.

As far as the bracket beatdown goes, I’m extremely nervous and torn.  I have two choices, root for my picks to lose for the benefit of the team or be humiliated by running on the dugout while I have the best bracket.  I beat Ash if Memphis goes to the Final Four and I beat Gambo is UNC wins it all.  However, if Pitt wins it all, that benefits Wolf and gives us a ton of points.  Yoda has Mizzou and Nova in the Final Four.  So the best scenario for us would be for Pitt to win it all over Mizzou.

Now you see my dilemma.  I’m going to win the bracket beatdown and still end up on the dugout.  No matter what happens, I lose.

The Napkin Story

It’s become a right of spring.  Every year we come to Tucson, one of us brings up the napkin story.  It was Yoda and Wolf’s first experience on a road trip with me.

We went to see a D-backs game but didn’t want to sit in the press box so we moved to the seats.  I was sitting with my legs draped over the seat in front of me.  I guess it was rude, but I figured in the second inning of a half-filled ballpark, no one would sit in front of me.

Around the third inning, a woman in her early 50’s wearing a long summer dress and full-brim sun hat, walked down the row.  I started to move in case I was in her seat, but before I could get my legs up she says, “Excuse me,” in that tone that means she wants to verbally spar or embarrass you.

Since you’re reading this, you’ve obviously gotten to know me over a period time.  I can’t explain this personality trait of mine but I’m very laid back around friends but if someone wants to go, I go.

That means something completely different to me than it does to Wolf.  When I go, I’m in a verbal spat with you.  If you’re nice to me, I’m one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet.  If you’re a jerk to me, I’ll bring it right back.  I think people that are jerks always assume no one will call their bluff, well, I will.

If jerks are always allowed to get away with their crap, when will it end?  Other people think this is a major flaw of mine.  They wonder who nominated me for that spot and why can’t I just let it go.  I look at it the other way.  There’s a right and a wrong way of dealing with situations and if you want to handle it the wrong way, don’t expect me to cowar to your attitude.

Well–now back to the story–I let the first shot go.  I didn’t say anything to the woman after the “excuse me.”  I bit my tongue because I was with Yoda and Wolf for the first time.  Now that I have moved my feet and was sitting up, she stared at the seat (which was folded up now) and looked at me in disgust saying, “Do you have a napkin?”

I said, “Hell no, I don’t have a napkin.  You’re at a baseball game, not church.”

As you can imagine, the rest of the game was mostly spent with the woman murmuring to her friends who showed up a while later.  Yoda and Wolf didn’t know what to say because they saw the attitude the woman gave me (”fooshaw” wasn’t invented yet).  They knew she deserved the beat down but weren’t really thrilled that it was me giving it to her.

At the time, I’m not sure Wolf and Yoda really knew what they had in me as a partner.  Come to think of it, after 2+ years, they still don’t.

My Beloved Ohio University

If had a chance to listen to the Crunk List today, I owe you something.

If you have no idea what the “Crunk List” is, here’s your quick explanation.  The word “crunk” started out as a college word.  It meant being more than just drunk to the point of being crazy drunk.  Crazy drunk being “crunk.”  The word has since morphed into several different meanings.  Some people would dispute the way I learned about the word saying it started with much more sinister reasons.

The word now has basically changed to mean what is cutting-edge cool.  Since Wolf started using the word–as in “my young crunk brothers”–we started the Crunk List to tell you what is on the tips of the tongues of those who would be considered crunk.

Here’s the back story to boom goes the dynamite.  A kid from Ball State is going through his first sports cast on the student run news show.  The hilarity is how important it is for him to get out his signature line “boom goes the dynamite” but he can’t do any part of the actual highlight.  It’s not only funny because he’s so bad, but mostly because he refuses to drop his line.


We brought it up in the crunk list because “boom goes the dynamite” has actually moved into Oscar vernacular.  For some reason, Will Smith kept saying, “outstounding” instead of “outstanding.”  It was classic for him to bust himself with his own “boom goes the dynamite.”

The “boom goes the dynamite” story reminded me of my favorite news clip ever.  It honestly takes me 15 minutes to get it together after I watch it.  Ohio University Broadcast Journalism Students run a weekday newscast in the early afternoon.  Everyone calls it “Active-7″ but it’s really a show on ACTV, channel 7.  They work multiple positions to learn about TV news and eventually move on air for real experience.  Eventually “Louis” had moved up the chain for his big chance to be on air as the weatherman.

I’ve watched it so many times I pick-up something new every time.  After you watch it the first time (because once you see it you’ll show someone else and be watching it a second time), pay attention to the weatherman’s hand/arm position.  Just from a common sense factor it’s hilarious.

A weatherman stands in front of a green screen and a computer takes out all the green in the picture and superimposes the weather maps and forecast.  The weatherman is supposed to look at the monitor and point at different aspects on the screen he wants to highlight.  What’s great about this guy is he’ll point with one hand and realize he’s pointing off-screen, so he then switches hands, but points across his body.  Therefore, he’s pointing in the same direction he was before.  At least common sense would tell you if you’re pointing to the left with your left hand and it’s wrong, don’t point with your right hand to the left because you’re still doing the same thing!

The third time I watched it, I noticed his eyes.  In TV, there’s a floor manager that helps the talent find cameras and lead them to different screens.  You can see our weatherman constantly looking at the floor manager and being surprised by everything that’s happening.  He even checks the camera to see if he’s still on air instead of worrying what he’s going to do next.

The fourth time…it was the amount of times he repeats the same info because he continually losses his place. Yes, I’ve watched it at least 100 times.

The highlight of the whole thing is the cheesy blonde at the end of the forecast.  When it’s over, you’re so happy the kids off-the-hook but you know it’s coming.  You’re hoping she doesn’t say it.  You’re praying she just ignores him and goes on with the news…and…she says it.


7 Seconds or Shaq

You like that title don’t you.  So do I.  Doug & Wolf listener Eric House dropped that on me in an e-mail.

It’s what I’ve been begging for ever since the Shaq trade, I just wasn’t creative enough to put it into words.

Get the ball down the floor as fast as you can.  Take a good open shot if it’s there but there’s never a reason to force anymore.  NEVER FEAR, SHAQ IS HERE…wait, scratch that, NEVER FORCE, HERE COMES OUR HORSE!

I don’t want to revise history, first of all.  I was very against the Shaq trade when it happened.  I didn’t believe in blowing next year’s salary cap for Shaq.  At the time of the Shaq trade, I wanted the Suns to give it two more years (last year and this year) with the current collection of players and then blow it up.  Marion’s contract would have come off the books this year and I thought they could trade Nash in the off-season.

Once the Shaq trade happened, I never changed my mind because of Shaq’s health and ego.  I may be proven right in the end that it was a bad trade but I’d be right for the wrong reasons.  His ego has been exactly what the team needed and he’s healthier now than he has been in years.

What I wanted to see was the D’Antoni version of the Suns and the Kareem version of the Lakers meshed as one.  Run the floor and if it doesn’t work, then set-up the half-court offense.  If Shaq outlets and the original break doesn’t end up in a lay-up/dunk then relax and wait for Shaq.  There’s still plenty of time to run the Amare/Nash pick-and-roll when Shaq’s out of the game.  When he’s in the game, he becomes the focal point of the offense.

We all know that since the coaching change, the Suns have three scrimmages before the face the defending Eastern and Western conference champions three times in eight days.  We’re not losing our minds because of two wins over the Clippers.  I am bouncing off the wall though that the Suns have an offensive game plan now.  The plan is 7 Seconds or Shaq!

Your Guacamole Station

I asked people to e-mail me today if they wanted to here the guacamole story.  Enough people did, so I thought I would share it with anyone that wanted to hear it.

I admit up front that it’s not that great of a story but when you know the Mistress of the Morning Diane Brennan, than you know how much fun she is to be around.  Knowing what a great person and friend she is makes this story a lot of fun.  You’ll be surprised at how simple the story is.  The humor is how often Diane tried the joke over and over again

At the Super Bowl, we broadcast live from radio row, which is more like a radio hog pen.  In the middle of a large banquet room is the NFL Network TV stage with tables all over the place around the room for different stations.  The ESPN owned radio stations are all in one place (we’re an ESPN affiliate but we’re not owned by ESPN.  The Fox Sports radio stations are all in a different corner, and the “NFL Channel” on Sirius actually has a partition to seperate it from other stations.  They even have a couch and small fridge for guests.

In this crazy setting, current players, old but famous players, and HOFers all walk around with their handler.  They have been trained to talk about the product that they’re hawking.  Everyone’s happy because we get an interview with a big name player and they get to promote their product.

The key is you have to set-up the interviews with the handler because he tries to book the biggest radio markets there.  Yoda is great at this and that’s why “Doug & Wolf” had so many shows while we were in Tampa.

Shannon Sharpe was walking around and Ankarlo from news talk 92.3 wanted him on his show.  He asked Diane to go over and get him on the show even though neither of them had spoken to the handler.  When Diane tried to set up the interview she asked Shannon what he was pitching.  He said, “California avocados.”

Her response that she thought would influence him to say yes to her interview request was, “Well, we are your guacamole station!”

Of course, that story isn’t very funny.  Sharpe didn’t laugh and Diane didn’t get the interview.  The part that is funny is she didn’t take the hint from Sharpe that it wasn’t funny.  She went on air with Ankarlo and told the story.  Ankarlo didn’t laugh and she thought he didn’t know anything about humor.

Later, on the way to dinner that night, she told Yoda and I what happened.  When we didn’t laugh, she ripped us for not getting the joke.  We went out with some friends of mine from KC and we told them about the problems she was having getting guests for Ankarlo.  Before they could give her some advise, she broke into the story again.  Now there’s about 8 guys all listening to her story and not one of them crack a smile.  So now she says you had to be there and someone reminds her that Sharpe was there and he didn’t think it was funny.

You would have thought that by now the story is dead but she tells the story on air to Wolf the next morning.  She really thought he would be the one guy who would laugh.  When she hit the punch line, Wolf just looked at her.  He was still waiting for the punch line and didn’t know he missed it.

The story eventually became hilarious only because she kept thinking eventually it would be funny.  By the end of the week, every time the station did something good, we told her it was because “we’re the guacamole station.”

She didn’t think that was funny but Yoda and I did.

You can now see why I didn’t tell the story on air, but you can also see why we love Diane so much.

What the $%&! do we do now

The Suns just lost 124 to 112 against the Warriors.

At a time when you would think the Suns would have their hearts pouring out onto the floor, they instead step on ours.

There’s a lot of things I’d like to say about the Suns right now but I found someone else who says it better.

Jay Bilas is in no way calling out the Suns but after you read his blog ask yourself a question.  Do you see any similarities in Jay’s blog and the Phoenix Suns?  If you do, that makes one of us.

Super Game

The Cardinals lost Super Bowl XLIII.

They didn’t lose because of bad coaching or bad officiating.  They lost because they are the second best team in the NFL.

It’s easy to see that the play of the game was the Harrison interception return for a TD.  The Cardinals lost by 4 points and that play was a 10 point swing.

I’m not upset at the interception.  Sure, it was Warner’s mistake.  It was a pass he should not have made.  He did what he rarely does.  He locked on to one receiver.  He didn’t check to find the LB on the play.  None of that upsets me.

Kurt Warner gets away with that pass far too often to suddenly get upset about it now.  If this was a continual mistake, then I’d go nuts.  When the aggression of a QB is the whole reason why a franchise makes it to the Super Bowl, I refuse to suddenly question his actions at the end.

What does frustrate me is the lack of tackling.  It seemed to me there were about 4 people feeling sorry for themselves after the interception.  If Harrison is tackled, the half ends.  Sure it stinks the Cardinals would have lost 3 points and maybe 7, but that has nothing to do with the Steelers scoring a touchdown.  If all 11 guys would have put as much effort into tackling Harrison, the Cardinals would be Super Bowl Champions.